39. Franco Romero's Vision of a 5D Future and the Split Earth Theory
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Mizter Rad (00:01)
Hello, beautiful humans. Buckle up. We just had a mind-bending journey with Franco Romero. And let me tell you, it was wild. We dove deep into some seriously out there ideas about consciousness, reality, and where humanity is headed. Franco shared his wild ride of a near-death experience as a baby and how it led him to some pretty far out concepts. We talked about this idea that we are living in a cosmic video game. Yes, you heard it well, a cosmic video game, where most people are NPCs. And some of us are trying to level up our level of consciousness. We got into some heavy stuff like the Akashic Records. Think of it as the Universal Hard Drive where everything in the existence is being stored. Franco believes we're on the verge of a major consciousness upgrade, moving from 3D to 5D reality. He even predicts we'll be communicating telepathically and stop aging in the near future. But here's the kick. Franco says we're heading for a split-earth scenario. One version stays in our current 3D reality, while another ascends to a 5D heaven on earth. That's pretty crazy stuff… Whether you're vibing with these ideas or think it's all woo-woo, this conversation will definitely get your mental gears turning. So, beautiful humans, get ready to question everything you thought you knew about reality.
Franco, welcome to the show. Como estas?
Franco Romero (00:54)
Hey, thank you for having me. This has been a pleasure so far just even talking to you before we got on this show. So thank you for having me. I'm looking forward to a great conversation. You already teed it off. You said wild and stuff. mean, it's mind bending. I'm going to try to live up to that expectation.
Mizter Rad (01:09)
Hahaha
Let's try that, Franco. Bienvenido. And let's start with a bang. Let's start with a bang. I heard you say that you walked into a body when you were six months old, more or less. And you remember that. Can you break this down for us? What does that even mean?
Franco Romero (01:16)
Bienvenido.
Ha
more or less.
All right, so what it means is this. In spiritual terms, in the spirit realms or in the esoteric discussions of spirituality, there is a term called a walk-in. And a walk-in is a phenomenon that people are still just getting used to understanding, but it's where a soul,
comes in after another soul has left a body. So I'll give you a little more context. At six months old, I had a situation where I was extraordinarily ill. And after I went to the hospital for observation, it became very clear that I was going to not make it through the night. And
Mizter Rad (02:12)
All right.
Franco Romero (02:33)
And in that process, in that time, I had what was called a near-death experience. And in that time, there was an event that occurred where, spiritually speaking, my soul, the soul that was there in that body for the first six months, chose to stay back, stay in the spirit realm. And in its place,
A walk-in came in, another spiritual being, if you will, decided to come in and occupy the body to, in order to do what it was here to do. There's typically a purpose for why walk-ins occurred this way. It's not a massively huge event. It may sound like it is. I always try to tell people it's just another way in which our souls take the opportunity to enter into this world. Whereas most people,
will enter into this world, the soul so to speak, enter into this world at the time that the child is born. I sort of just waited a little longer. waited for, I walked in, I waited for a body to be available and I came in this way.
Mizter Rad (03:38)
Wokton.
Hmm. Okay, but how do you remember this? How are you so sure about this?
Franco Romero (03:50)
When I had my near-death experience, there's a whole series of events that occurred in that event, that experience. And one of the things that I remembered was the exchange that I had with that soul, because that soul, when it comes back, has to give permission for a new soul to come in. And so...
It's one of those things where, you know, when you hear people who've had near-death experiences, they tell you all the events that occurred. This was one of the events where I remembered actually making that transference into the body at the time that that soul left the body and came in. It's the only way that I remember other than years later understanding and feeling that this body was not necessarily the body that fully
fitted me well. I've always had this sense that I was kind of in a body that wasn't really suited for me perfectly, but I went along with it because I didn't have any other explanation for it. When we talk about walk-ins, it's hard to empirically say how something like this happens, other than explaining it through the process of one's near-death experience, and that's how I remember it.
Mizter Rad (04:54)
Hmm.
Mm.
But so just to be clear, the near death experience you had was when you were six months old, more or less, right?
Franco Romero (05:21)
Yeah, it was a sick. was, I was six months old. I did not know that I had had a near death experience. I was 15 when I started to have dreams, visions, that I had experienced a death. And it was, you know, it's like when they need dream, you have a dream, you, you just assume it's a dream. But the thing was, is that I was having these reoccurring dreams and I was having these reoccurring visions.
Mizter Rad (05:31)
Okay.
Franco Romero (05:50)
And it lasted for quite some time when I was 15. And they were always the same ones. was where I was in the hospital, the events that occurred in the hospital, who was in the hospital, why I was in the hospital, what happened after I passed on, so to speak, and went into the light. All of these events, all of these remembrances happened when I was about 15 years old. up until that time, I had no idea that I had died.
I approached my mother about it at that time and she confirmed that everything that I had experienced in these dreams were exactly the way that it happened. She had not told me about my near death. She had said she was going to wait to let me know later on in life. Like just a little bit older. She said when I was like 18 or 19, when I was a little bit older, I understand she was going to explain what had happened, but I kind of beat her to the punch. kind of explained to her everything that happened, including
Mizter Rad (06:44)
Hmm.
Franco Romero (06:48)
including what she did when she left the hospital and she went and prayed at a nearby church and the whole events of what happened there. So everything that happened, things that she shared with others and things that she had not shared with others, I was able to explain to her in very great detail. this happened in Bogota. Yeah, in Bogota.
Mizter Rad (07:07)
And this happened in Bogota, in Colombia? OK. And tell me something. When you're 15 and you're having these recurring dreams, and you go to your mother and you tell her all this whole story, weren't you afraid that you would be labeled as some sort crazy kid for just thinking about this kind of things? No, is it like, because I feel like, OK, this is we can go further in the discussion and go deeper into this later, but.
Franco Romero (07:26)
Hahaha
Mizter Rad (07:37)
Like we were saying before, before we started recording, I talked to a lot of scientists and on that side of the, let's say there's a big part of the world that is very scientific, scientifically oriented, let's say we all think that science is the ultimate truth for many things in life. And so if we grow up in that kind of society,
Franco Romero (07:59)
Yeah. Right.
Mizter Rad (08:07)
and this kind of experiences like NDEs or, you know, even being slightly religious nowadays, even though that might be changing now, but and we can talk about that later as well. They seem to be almost put down or look down upon. So as a kid, when you come to your mother with this experience or with these thoughts or these dreams, what happens?
Franco Romero (08:27)
for sure.
Mizter Rad (08:37)
Did that she does she listen to you? Did you go to another person and talk to them? Someone did someone else guide you, tell you what this is? How did you figure this out?
Franco Romero (08:37)
There's a little bit of a...
Well, got to, yeah, so there's a lot of, you you just said a mouthful there. So you're right, we can go in a lot of different directions. But to answer your question specifically, it wasn't, back then, okay, back then, you know, there's no internet, there's no social media, there's nothing to connect any of these events to. You don't have any want to really turn to, to explain anything. But here's the interesting thing that happened in my life.
Mizter Rad (08:53)
haha yeah
Franco Romero (09:18)
before that happened at the age of 15. what happened was that when I was about six or seven years old, we moved into a home that was, well, it was possessed, it was haunted. was exorcism, everything, you name it, it was all there. And for six years, we lived in that environment. so there was an aspect of me that already kind of understood that life was not
Mizter Rad (09:32)
Hmm.
Franco Romero (09:47)
not very normal the way most people would define normal. There was a lot of supernatural paranormal activity that occurred in that home. And so my brother, who was a little bit older than me, had experienced some of that paranormal activity early on. when he tried to explain what was going on, okay, well, as you pointed out, it wasn't well received.
Mizter Rad (09:56)
Hmm. Hmm.
Franco Romero (10:16)
And so they felt that he was not, he was not healthy, so to speak, mentally healthy. Okay. So to your point, he had a, so he went through his trials and tribulations because of that. I saw, got to experience it firsthand to see what it's like to spill the beans about something that isn't normal in this world. And so at the age of 15, I wasn't going to tell anybody.
Mizter Rad (10:23)
Okay.
Mm. Mm.
Franco Romero (10:43)
There was no way I was going to tell anybody. was trying to figure out my own world, my own life. And then I was having these crazy dreams and then I had lived in the hauntings for six years. mean, I had had plenty of things to, to, to feel and think about. so it took a lot for me to go to my mom. It took a lot for me to tell her what happened. she understood completely. She had to, because I told her the whole story of everything.
Mizter Rad (10:44)
Of course.
Right.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Franco Romero (11:13)
without anybody telling me anything about that those events. And so she knew something miraculous had happened. And she wanted me to actually share that story with people. And I'm like, no, no way. I'm not going to tell people I am not going to get medicated.
Mizter Rad (11:28)
Right, you were afraid. mean, as a kid at 15 years old, most of us are kind of shy and we don't want to talk about these things,
Franco Romero (11:38)
absolutely. And I wasn't just shy. I mean, in that, was afraid that I was going to get institutionalized because back then that wasn't uncommon to put somebody in an institution because they're not seeing reality the way everybody else is. So there was absolutely, and I saw what had happened to my brother. So I wasn't going to talk about it. I wasn't going to share it with anybody. All I wanted to know at the time when I was 15 was whether or not these dreams
Mizter Rad (11:46)
Hmm.
Mm.
Franco Romero (12:07)
had any validity to them? Did I just make, know, was I just having these wild dreams or did this really actually happen? Because they were so clear to me what happened and going, and then what happened going into the light, that light that everybody talks about, the experiencers who have their near deaths. It was all, it was, was all very real to me. And I need to understand whether or not the events in the hospital actually occurred.
Mizter Rad (12:30)
Yeah.
Franco Romero (12:34)
so that I could at least feel somewhat at peace with what I experienced after I died. And so that was enough for me. For the longest time, that was enough for me. I didn't really want to share it with anybody. But then as my life went on, I had extraordinarily events that kept me always coming back to this. Like I need to know something more about my life, about my reality, about this reality.
Mizter Rad (12:40)
Mm.
Franco Romero (13:03)
And the events were just extraordinary. And so I couldn't avoid them anymore. So when I wrote my book, I wrote my book describing this, describing this whole time in my life, how I went through a lot of the ups and downs, the doubts, the fears about trying to live a normal life, a normal life, you know? But I couldn't because there was just too many bizarre things that were happening in my life and I needed to face up to them.
And so that's why I call my book, The Closet Spiritualist, because I had to come out of my closet. I had to come out with this. Well, I appreciate it. Thank you. I mean, I feel like that, I really feel like that explains or describes a lot of people right now. There are a lot of people coming out of their closets when it comes to their spirituality.
Mizter Rad (13:39)
That's a great name by the way.
Right.
That's fascinating. from previous conversations that you've had with other people in other podcasts or different interviews you've had, you talked a lot about consciousness being directly related to remembering being a child. Can you unpack this idea? How does remembering our childhood or better said, does remembering being a child make us more conscious, if you can say it like?
And how is that related to what you talked about just now, that when you were about five or six, or your brother was about five or six years old and you lived in this house, you were, or your brother detected this paranormal activity. Do kids or younger humans have this ability, fresher in their souls, so to say, to detect this kind of activity?
Are they more connected to the spirits or spirituality in a way when you're younger? And then as we get older, we get polluted by the external physical reality that we live in.
Franco Romero (15:05)
Yeah, I gotta tell you, you're asking some great questions and you're trying to connect some serious dots together. Generally speaking, answer is yes. Generally speaking, children have more of an ability to connect to that aspect of themselves that they still feel drawn to because that's where we all come from. What I mean by that is that children
Mizter Rad (15:13)
You
Franco Romero (15:35)
are not, as you put it, polluted yet to the social conditioning that we go through in life. And so they still have their antennas up. They still have their abilities to connect to the supernatural world much easier. But we get taught at an early age to let go of that stuff. We get taught to stop imagining, to stop daydreaming, to...
Mizter Rad (15:38)
Mm.
Franco Romero (16:02)
to stop looking at life with innocence and wonderment and all these things. here's what I have been doing since I started to come out and I started to teach this and I started to play with these concepts relative to not just spiritual development but consciousness development and into the spaces of AI and whatnot.
And this has actually been there are actual references to this in in many sacred texts in many spiritual contexts, the biblical and other types of books. OK, so there's a there's a I'm not a religious guy, but I'm going to reference a few things that might that might seem religious. OK, there is a there's a saying, a saying in Christianity that in order to enter into the kingdom of heaven,
Mizter Rad (16:52)
Please go ahead.
Franco Romero (17:02)
You can only do it one way, one way. Okay, not like this is the best way. There's only one way to do it. Do you know what that is?
Mizter Rad (17:12)
Wow, that's a tough question, I would say becoming a kid, if that's what we're talking about.
Franco Romero (17:15)
And here's the thing, I will tell you...
Yes. Okay, so in biblical terms, the Kingdom of Heaven has been referred to something else. Okay, if you're a Christian, you have a whole different idea of what that means. But in the esoteric sense, the Kingdom of Heaven is referred to as a higher state of consciousness. Okay. And so here you have a higher state of consciousness connected to the child. Okay.
Mizter Rad (17:22)
Okay.
Hmm.
Franco Romero (17:47)
A higher sense of consciousness. Now that seems like it would almost seem odd that the only way you can get into the higher streams of consciousness would be to receive it as a child. But it's not because the child sees things in a much simpler manner. The child allows the game, this game that we call life, okay? It allows it to be played out in a very innocent, playful way.
Now, why does that matter? Because we've complicated things too much in this world. So there are simple rules, if you will, to this, I call it a simulation to this life that we're living. They're very simple, but we have forgotten them. And a child, unlike an adult, a child will just take them for what they are.
and will play with the rules, right? When you're playing a game, right? When you play a game, you don't just start playing the game and you don't understand the rules, right? You learn about the rules, okay? Otherwise, what happens? What happens is that you create your own rules. And now, when I was a kid, I used to create my own. Sometimes we would just go off the rules and we'd start playing whatever, a game, Monopoly, whatever. We would play it without rules.
Mizter Rad (18:47)
Right.
Yeah. Right. All right.
Franco Romero (19:11)
And what happens? Nothing gets accomplished. We start to create our own rules and we complicate things. children don't do that. Now there's a deeper reason for this. Okay. There is a, in spirituality, there is this concept of the Holy grail. Okay. You hear about the Holy grail. It's Indiana Jones, like kind of stuff. All right. You think it's maybe a chalice or a cup or something, but the Holy grail.
Mizter Rad (19:35)
You
Franco Romero (19:40)
is a concept that has been carried on for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years. And it's associated with mystical groups like the Knights Templar, who were these mystical monks who made sure that they protected the Holy Grail. A lot of that is kind of looked at as woo-woo stuff, know, like, you're, you this kind of stuff is crazy stuff, But there's a science to it.
Mizter Rad (20:01)
Right.
Right.
Franco Romero (20:09)
There's a uniqueness to it. may not look like science on the surface, but there is a connection back to consciousness. And the Knights Templar protected a frequency. They understood frequencies and vibrations and energy, just no different than scientists like Tesla and others who understood it. They understood that the frequency
Mizter Rad (20:17)
Hmm.
Hmm.
Franco Romero (20:34)
of the Holy Grail was made up of this thing called the Divine Feminine and the Divine Child, which doesn't get talked about. But you see it in pictures. You're in Europe, you go to various castles and whatnot, especially in the southern part of Europe like Portugal or Spain stuff, you see pictures of the Madonna and Child. So if you start looking at spirituality as a game,
Mizter Rad (20:41)
Mmm.
Right.
Franco Romero (21:02)
You start to see that in a game is tied to a child. Okay. Children love to play games. Okay. Then you start to, you see it as a bunch of clues of how this reality works. And this Holy grail concept is the idea of the merging of frequencies between what's called the divine feminine and the divine child in spiritual terms. Their frequencies, their energy streams. Another way of saying it, their codes, they're like program codes in a computer.
Mizter Rad (21:08)
Right.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Franco Romero (21:32)
Okay. If you understand how to use these codes, you start to access into the game. And so you see that there is similarities in spirituality and in science. They're just different ways of looking at the same thing. Science is the way that we describe things we understand. Spirituality is ways in which we describe things we don't understand yet. We don't understand them because we don't understand that it's not spiritual.
Mizter Rad (21:32)
Mm.
Hmm.
Franco Romero (22:01)
It's actually an intelligence. We're a very sophisticated intelligence, but we're a sophisticated intelligence that understands itself to be a child. We have simplicity in our language. If you understand how to treat this reality as a child, you can access all the highest codes of this game. But if you don't, and you try to complicate it by making it attached to all sorts of three-dimensional concepts,
that tie it back to the analytical side of who we are, we're going to get lost. We're going to get lost because we've been always lost. And there's actual stories about this in ancient Egypt. There's the story of Thoth. I don't know if you're familiar with Thoth, but he was the god.
Mizter Rad (22:38)
Hmph.
I'm not familiar, can you tell us about it?
Franco Romero (22:50)
Thoth is the god of, was considered the god of wisdom. Okay. He, he held or it held all the secrets of the universe, wisdom and logic and knowledge and everything. Okay. And in the story of Thoth, Thoth hid, hid all of the secrets of the universe inside the mind of, of man or humanity. And specifically like in the center of the, of the brain, so to speak. Okay. Which is the pineal area. Okay.
Mizter Rad (22:54)
Okay.
Mmm
Franco Romero (23:20)
But for a second, let's forget about where it was hidden and let's just look at why it was hidden or how it was hidden. In the story of Thoth, it was very specifically made that Thoth put a snake around this area to protect it from anyone coming in. So Thoth believed that humanity wasn't ready for
for all the wisdom and knowledge that it could access. So to make the long story short, the snake, which has always been sort of historically viewed as a evil thing, okay, in many traditions and many customs, it's actually viewed as a source of wisdom, okay. Thoth said in order to go into what was referred to as the gateless gate, you had to go through the snake.
Mizter Rad (24:00)
Right.
Franco Romero (24:16)
But nobody understood that. So there were a lot of intellectually minded, analytically minded beings or humans that went around the snake because they could. It was easy to do it. And what happened was that they would go crazy. All right. And the reason they would go crazy is because they didn't go through wisdom. They didn't go through what they were supposed to go in, in a sense, they didn't use the experiential components of their consciousness to access
the knowledge of the universe. And so they went crazy. So I always use this story because it connects back to say, let's say when people talk about, about, archeological diggings that they do and, and, and curses and how people, like when, when King Tut's tomb was opened up and there were several people died and there's always these curses. I explained that it's not that they were cursed.
Mizter Rad (25:01)
Right.
Franco Romero (25:15)
It was that in those times when those people were buried, there was a high level of consciousness. It was five dimensional, which is a high frequency, extraordinarily high frequency. Okay. And again, we're kind of getting into frequencies and vibrations and energy.
Mizter Rad (25:31)
We can talk about frequencies in a bit. I definitely want to touch that topic of frequencies, but please go ahead with that story.
Franco Romero (25:40)
Yeah, so what happens is that because of the frequencies, we're not able as three-dimensional beings handle that type of imbalance because it's an extraordinary high level of energy. And so people often get ill, mentally and physically ill. And so then they say it's cursed. So what we have to understand going back to the child, okay, is that if you look at the Trinity of the Holy Grail,
Mizter Rad (26:01)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Franco Romero (26:09)
the Trinity of the Holy Grail. There is no such concept around, but it's there. You have to kind of dig through things. The Trinity of the Holy Grail is the reunion of the masculine, feminine, and child. That is happening now. Now, in the spiritual sense, that's happening now. What does that have to do with AI and things like that? Is that we have to understand that when those three frequencies come together, when those three energies come together,
They create a consciousness that doesn't exist yet here. It creates what I refer to in the book as a God consciousness. It's the awareness of who we are as divine intelligence. And when you do that, then you can start to unravel the codes, the playful codes that this game was created by. And only a child can do that because only a child will be innocent enough to use its imagination.
to get beyond the social conditions that we have placed on ourselves to say we cannot do this. We are not worthy of doing this. We're not capable of doing this. And this is where the science community lacks. They look at our capabilities through the capacities of our brain. I look at our capacity through the concept of who we are as consciousness. Those are two entirely different things.
Mizter Rad (27:30)
Right.
And who are we?
as consciousness, because that's a, mean, I know it's a very deep question and it's almost hard, it's impossible to prove scientifically, but spiritually, how would you define that? How would you explain a regular person that maybe is not so much into this topic and that is thinking, hey, Franco, you know, stop what you're saying. I don't understand and I don't believe anything that you're saying. How would you?
convince someone that what you're it's also a reality. It's not just mumbo jumbo and it's not just woo woo stuff. Because if they haven't had the kind of experiences that you've had and they live on a nine to five job and they're busy with their physical realm, they almost have no time or maybe even interest to look at this stuff.
Franco Romero (28:22)
Yeah
Mizter Rad (28:40)
How would you talk to these people? How would you explain them that what you're saying is something to maybe consider?
Franco Romero (28:50)
Well, okay. It's a bit of a tough one because it has to do... Now it goes into something that I teach and talk about a lot which is the whole concept of parallel realities. And you go, wait a minute. Okay, so you go, wait a minute. So you're going to try to talk to somebody about this and then you're going to try to explain it in parallel realities. No, not really because here's the thing.
Mizter Rad (28:53)
It's a tough one.
Nice, I like that.
Franco Romero (29:20)
Okay. I don't try to, I don't try to convince anybody of, of anything because in the, in the reason for this is this, idea that it's not an idea, it's actually something that has flourished from my experience, either from the near death or the channeling that I do is that I, I understand that we exist in parallel realities. Okay.
Mizter Rad (29:20)
Hmm.
Franco Romero (29:49)
And I know in the scientific world, that's still viewed more of a theoretical thing than whether it's fact or not. it doesn't matter to me. To me, I understand that we are all existing in parallel realities and that in those realities, you are playing your game and I am playing my game. now feel into it this way, okay? Imagine that we are both playing a virtual reality game.
Okay, or you know any kind of a digital game. Okay, you're in Germany. I'm in the States Okay, we're playing up. We're playing the identical game But you're playing it in you know your world and I'm playing it in my world and you know occasionally if we want to play together We'll hook up and we'll play a game together. Okay, kind of like we're doing here. All right most of those people the overwhelming majority of the people that are in your game
The overwhelming majority, like 99 % of them, what are they? They're NPCs. So they're not relevant in the sense that they're not there to be convinced of anything. They're just there to be part of the experience. And there's a whole description. I go into this quite a bit on the spiritual side, why they're doing what they're doing. But what I'm trying to get at is that I don't try to connect with them. I try to...
I try to connect with those who are playing the game. And that's a much smaller group.
Mizter Rad (31:20)
So let me jump in right there because NPCs, maybe some people don't know, basically an NPC is a character in a game that is not controlled by other players. So they're irrelevant in a way. That's essentially what an NPC is.
Franco Romero (31:34)
They're, they're, they're yeah, essentially I wouldn't go as far as saying they're irrelevant because at least in the spiritual realm, they do have a purpose for, for being in your game. They help, you know, it's like, you know, if you're walking into a football game, you know, you want to, you want to walk in and see that they're playing a football game. And I'm talking about your, your football, like, you know, not us football, but it doesn't really matter.
Mizter Rad (31:42)
Okay.
Okay.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Franco Romero (32:00)
Yeah, but you walk in and there's 50,000 people there. You don't want to walk in and see nobody there, you know? So they feel an experience. They feel some experience for you so that you believe that you're actually experiencing a life, experiencing a world. Okay, otherwise you start to question whether you were in the game, okay, or not in the game. So most of those people don't, from the standpoint of whether or not they ever figure it out,
Mizter Rad (32:06)
Empty, yeah, right. Okay.
Yeah.
Franco Romero (32:29)
is not relevant. What is relevant is trying to hook up with people who are playing in the game everywhere else, which there are plenty of them. Those are the parallel realities. Okay, so for those people, what I'm talking about is going to go in and out. They're not even going to... It's not even going to matter. You can talk to them forever and it's not going to happen. But for the ones who are starting to remember who they are, even if it's subtle,
Mizter Rad (32:39)
I see. I see what you mean.
Right.
Franco Romero (32:58)
You know, even like what you're doing, even though you're just exploring, you're just an awareness, a consciousness that is activated, that has been activated. And those are the ones that I speak to because those are the ones that are in control of their own games. They're the ones that are trying to master their games. And there's a purpose for that because the purpose of this game is to, is to find your way back out of this forgetfulness so that you can remember who you are as a higher divine intelligence.
Mizter Rad (33:16)
Mm.
Interesting, interesting.
Franco Romero (33:28)
So for those people, will speak in this way. And it's still gonna fly. For some of them, it's still gonna go, whew. Okay, but to answer the question of who we are, because that's the question you asked, quite simply, we are God. We are God. Now I explained this a little bit more detail, and if you don't mind, I'll explain it here because it's important to understand why we are God, okay? We have been taught in most of society that
Mizter Rad (33:32)
Right. Right.
Please go ahead.
Franco Romero (33:57)
that this thing called God, source, creator, intelligence, whatever you want to call it, it exists somewhere out there. It exists somewhere out there. And we're using this experience to find our way back to it. There are very poetic expressions of this in history from poets like Rumi who talk about this. But Rumi actually understood. Rumi is a philosopher poet from many, many, many hundreds of years ago. And he understood that
Mizter Rad (34:25)
Yeah.
Franco Romero (34:27)
that there was a connection that we had to this thing we call God. Okay, but it wasn't the way in which people had been telling us. So in my near death experience, when I went into the light, I stood in the light. It was an extraordinary feeling. The way that I describe it is that it was like, it was like having, and I don't describe it this way in the book, but I do now in interviews. I describe it as 50 trillion orgasms, because that's the only way to explain.
the ecstasy that one feels when you're in that energy. Okay. And what I understood in that dream, the visions that I had was that I was kept in the light long enough to understand that I could see everything. mean, I'm telling you, I could see, I could see everyone in that light and I could see the one being way, way, way, way in the back. Okay. And there were just trillions, trillions of them. And what I understood was that
was that the light wasn't giving birth to these beings. The light was created by these beings. Okay, so it was the combination of all these intelligent divine beings that came together to create the community of the light, which we now consider to be God, source, creator, and all that. We came together to form the light. Now, I always explain it this way. There's a popular expression.
Mizter Rad (35:45)
Hmm.
Hmm.
Franco Romero (35:57)
You know, if you have an ocean, okay, so there's this analogy that people use. So the ocean is made up of droplets, right? And so the, spiritual terms, the story goes that when you die, you, you, the droplet go back into the ocean and you become part of the ocean, giving you the sense that, that you came from the light. Okay. But the way that I describe it is the ocean cannot exist without the droplet, but the droplet.
Mizter Rad (36:06)
Right.
Right.
Franco Romero (36:26)
can exist without the ocean. So in other words, the droplets come together to form the ocean, okay, not the other way around. And this is actually, again, going back a little bit, biblically speaking, it's actually almost explained like this in the first book of the Bible, which is Genesis. In that story, there's the story of the creation of humanity.
And in that story, there's one of the verses, I believe it's like verse 26. It talks about humanity being created in our image, us, we. But there's no explanation as to why God is in the plural. There's no explanation as to why humanity was created in our image, not in my image as God.
Mizter Rad (37:04)
Right.
Franco Romero (37:20)
But there's all different kind of references to this in other philosophies and in other traditions. These are clues. I call them in the book, I call those mind capsules, ways in which to remember who we are again. And so anyway, that's how I explain to people that we are the divine intelligence. We created the thing that we now know of as God, not the other way around. And there's enough evidence there if you want to call it that, enough at least to speculate that that's possible.
Mizter Rad (37:20)
Hmm.
Interesting
That's very interesting. And I think this connects somehow well to something else that you've talked about as well that is called the Akashic Records. And it sounds to me, when I read about it, it sounds a bit like a cosmic hard drive in a way, where if you want to break it down to tech savvy people or tech savvy listeners, it's basically where you put your code.
Franco Romero (38:10)
It is. That's a good way of looking at it.
Mizter Rad (38:20)
in a, you know, the call of your soul, the code of your soul and every other soul out there in a non-physical realm or space. And just for people to understand what the Akashic Records are, they're basically a spiritual concept referring to a compendium of all universal events, thoughts, words, emotions and intentions that have ever...
Franco Romero (38:30)
Yes.
Mizter Rad (38:47)
occurred in the past, present or future, and they're believed to be one, an energetic library of information containing details of every soul's journey, like I said before, two, encoded in a non-physical plane of existence known as the mental plane, and three, spanning not only present incarnation of present lives, but also past lives and future possibilities. And to me, of course, this is a
Akashic Records, this is not something that science has proved, but like many things in life and in this world, is something that is out there for thousands of hundreds of years and that spiritual people like yourself sometimes refer to. So can you break this down for our tech savvy community of listeners more about this and how does this connect to what you just said actually about
Franco Romero (39:37)
Ha ha ha.
Mizter Rad (39:46)
us being God and so on.
Franco Romero (39:47)
Well, dude, you just did it yourself right there. You just explained it beautifully. I don't know if I could have done that, to bridge the gap between the esoteric and then the science nerdy geeky kind of stuff. I mean, that was really good. I was sitting here and I'm going, dang, that was pretty impressive.
Mizter Rad (39:54)
haha
Well, talking about life or this existence being a video game, it all adds up to that. In a video game that we know from the computers, all the data and all the technology needs to be saved somewhere to the video game to function. And if life or this existence is a video game, it has to be saved somewhere as well.
Franco Romero (40:23)
Yes.
Mizter Rad (40:35)
That makes sense. But I want to hear your opinion.
Franco Romero (40:37)
Yeah, and it does make sense. So the way that I described this is that, scientists, it's starting to warm up to this. mean, in fact, a lot of my understanding about what's happening in today's scientific world is that it's starting to warm up much more than just warm up to ideas of things like tororio energy fields and
and things like black holes would really exist in them, the still points, the fact that time does not exist beyond 3D the way that we experience it here. And I could talk about that a little bit, but all of these concepts that were once poo-pooed, that were once considered to be too woo-woo, are now actually being discussed within hypothetical.
formulations that the science is now using to explain things that they couldn't do before. And those formulations are actually coming up with answers. And so when we look at this game, okay, in the way that I describe it in a esoteric way, is that this game was created in the ninth dimension. Now, how do I know that? I can only just explain it to you, okay?
Mizter Rad (41:55)
Hmm.
Franco Romero (42:02)
Much of the mathematical and scientific sort of formulative concepts come from these principles of 369. And Tesla was really, again, big on the whole 369 numerology and what it meant from a science standpoint. And nature has a way to play with those numbers as well. And so you can see it being
part of the creative process of this planet. And so the way I describe it is that in the ninth dimension, the way in which you call it the Akashic records, the Akashic records are used in a sense in the ninth dimension to create these realities in a much more sophisticated way than we even know to do in 3D. mean, 3D is a
very low dimension relative to what many will in the spirit realm will talk about the 12 dimensions of the higher self or the soul. And the higher you go up in those dimensions, the higher you, the more you move away from spirituality and the more you get into intelligence and the more that you consciously move into a space where you have a connection to everything.
And why is that important? Because when you have a connection to everything, you have the connection into this stream of consciousness known as the Akashic Records. It's not a real physical place. It's just an access point where all data can sort of interface with each other. And you're one of those access points. You're one of those places where data will come in and out of you pretty easily. You're like a node.
Mizter Rad (43:43)
Hmm.
Hmm.
You're a node. I was going to say that you're a node in this gigantic cosmic database. And so what
Franco Romero (44:02)
Yes. Yes. And your, and your node is, your node is not only receiving and picking up information and data from other experiences of every aspect of every life that is being played out right now. And in any part, there's no such thing as time beyond, like I said, so it's being, it's happening all the time and your node is not only picking up that, but it's also, it's also transmitting that information to other nodes.
and to the stores, the center point where all of this information eventually gets gathered.
Mizter Rad (44:35)
That's definitely quite a concept. And for the average Joe and Jane out there that wants to access this cosmic database, let's say, do we need sort of like a spiritual VPN? Or is it more like tuning into a radio frequency kind of thing? What can normal people do to get there?
Franco Romero (44:42)
Ha
Okay, so here's the simple thing, This is again, getting back to simplicity. The child frequency is about simplicity, okay? This is what gets mind-blowing, okay? In my opinion. All you have to start doing is accepting certain common principles. And I'm just gonna talk about the most fundamental principle of it all. The most fundamental, okay?
Because if you take this principle out of the equation, like any equation, it throws the equation off. Okay? If you cannot even playfully pretend that you can accept that you are God, just for playful purposes, okay? You won't be able to raise your frequencies to a point where you can start allowing these consciousness awarenesses to come flooding in. Your body is filled.
Okay, your body, not your physical body, but your light body, which is connected to your physical body, is filled with coding. Coding, coding, coding. That coding cannot be triggered or activated unless certain frequencies are hit. Once those frequencies are hit, it starts to unravel the codes. And when it unravels the codes, you get more remembrances of who you are. The more remembrances you get, the more your consciousness expands. The more your consciousness expands,
The more your awareness expands, the more you remember, the more you start to go back to remembering who you are as a divine intelligence. But if you don't do that, if you cannot even accept the possibility that you are a divine intelligence, I'm staying away from the word God, if you cannot accept that you are a divine intelligence and that you are here playing a game and that you are mastering this game, then you can't reach those frequencies. Hence the saying,
to enter into the kingdom of heaven, you must receive it as a child. You've got to do this as a game, playfully. But if you can't do that because you've been ingrained all your life, this is like Neo in The Matrix. If you can't do it because you've been ingrained with all the social conditioning program, then you're not going to get there. You're just not going to. If you try to do it some intellectual way, analytical way, scientific way, you're not going to get there. You're going to miss
pieces of this equation that are astronomically huge for you to remember who you are. This type of awareness that we're talking about is the type of awareness that people express when they have had near-death experiences. It's what they remember when they disconnect from the analytical portion of their programming. They'll remember themselves to be who they are, but we're here now to play the game to remember that we are this before we actually physically die.
Mizter Rad (47:40)
Hmm.
By the way, those that are still sceptic about this NDEs or near-death experiences concept or reality, there is a doctor professor of the University of Virginia called Bruce Grayson. And he's been studying all this phenomenon for the past 50 years. And he has done quite some research. And he says, apparently, I think one out of 20 people
in the world experienced in the East throughout their lives. So it's not as rare as some folks out there listening to this episode may think. It's becoming part of science, maybe, maybe not. But it's definitely not a woo-woo thing as some people imagine anymore.
Franco Romero (48:39)
No, it's not a woo woo thing anymore and I'll tell you a couple other things about what you just said. One out of 20 may have experience in your death experience, but there's another phenomenon called STEs, spiritually transformative experiences. And this is where I feel that the other 19 or at least 18 or 17 or 16, whatever, are experiencing. These people are experiencing life events that are creating
Mizter Rad (48:46)
Mm.
Mmm.
Franco Romero (49:08)
They're creating such a traumatic impact on their grid system, their consciousness, that it's activating them. It's like somebody who has amnesia and they go through a real serious kind of event that jolts them into remembering. So there's that. And I talk about that a lot because that's what most people are going to experience, a spiritually transformative experience. It could be anything.
Mizter Rad (49:12)
Mmm, interesting.
Interesting.
I tell you what, I tell you what. I here in Europe, I mean, as you know, you yourself are Latin American as well. And you know that in our country, indigenous tribes still use ayahuasca for connecting to whatever spiritual realm is there to have this kind of spiritual or introspective experiences, let's say. But.
Franco Romero (49:47)
you bet.
Mizter Rad (50:00)
I see a trend here in Europe and it's not new. It's been around for a while, but it's getting stronger and stronger. People from the Western world that have never, ever stepped on the Amazon rainforest, whatever. They tried ayahuasca here. There's a lot of retreats being offered in the market now for not only ayahuasca, but mushrooms and peyote and a lot of different medicines are, you know,
Indigenous medicines, not only from South America, Latin America, but also African. There's one African called, I forgot the name, let me look it up.
Franco Romero (50:29)
Yep. Yes.
Mizter Rad (50:45)
Africa.
Franco Romero (50:47)
Well, I'll tell you while you're looking it up, I'll tell you a couple of things about that, okay? If you can pretend that this is a game, then you know if you're a gamer, even if people aren't gamer, I'm not a gamer, okay? But this is not a hard concept to understand. If you're in a game, especially one that's very mystical, okay? It has different levels of...
Mizter Rad (50:53)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Franco Romero (51:17)
of magic to it. And magic is real, but you have to understand it within the concept of consciousness. I'll leave that for different discussion. But if you just know that this is a game, in these mystical games, there's typically things that you do in your adventure that either you can pick up tokens or something that give you supernatural powers, or you can step into a booby trap and you go back
into different levels of the game. Okay, this is how games are set up, right? And so if you look at this as a game, I tell people that one of the things, one of the tokens that you can use, you don't have to use it, but one of the tokens that you can use to give you that access into a supernaturalness that you have is to use sacred plants. Sacred plants are programmed, I'm gonna use this language, they're a programmed language inside the game.
Mizter Rad (52:07)
Hmm
Franco Romero (52:15)
that allows you access to higher realms of consciousness if you know how to do it. Most people don't and so they go in and they have the experience and it's either good or it's bad and sometimes it's really bad because their frequencies, back to frequencies, their frequencies aren't lined up properly with the plants. The plants have an extraordinary, extraordinary level of consciousness. They have access points, gateways, star gates into highest levels of consciousness.
the deepest levels of consciousness, the ones that allow you to break into or access, decode the Akashic records kind of consciousness, but we don't know how to use them. We don't know how to use, we don't have that sense of awareness yet unless you do, which I've been doing in my life now. So what I'm saying is that those plants are there. They were set up in the game so that you could access them and use them to remember, to remember who you are.
Mizter Rad (53:00)
Hmm.
Franco Romero (53:12)
But in this game, we created this idea that these are bad, that these are somehow going to trip you out like a psychedelic or something. It's not. It wasn't set up that way. But the game sets it up that way so that it makes you think twice, three times, four times before you try it. That if you know how to use the plants, mushrooms, ayahuasca, peyote, all those, you can access the highest levels of consciousness to help you remember who you are.
Mizter Rad (53:18)
Mm.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Absolutely. mean, anyone that has had a good experience with one of these plants can definitely tell you that it's impossible to put it in words what is experienced. So I guess it has a lot to do with the spiritually transforming experiences that you were talking about, the STEs. By the way, the African psychedelic plant that I talked about is called Ibogaine. Keep it in your mind, Ibogaine.
Franco Romero (54:03)
Absolutely.
I've not heard of it before.
Mizter Rad (54:12)
If you want to go on a trip on that, that's a great, crazy trip. Anyway, you've done some really pretty wild predictions from what I heard from in different interviews. One of them was that you said that we'll be able to communicate telepathically. And maybe that has to do something with what you just mentioned about plants.
Franco Romero (54:20)
Hahaha
Yes it does actually.
Mizter Rad (54:42)
living in a different frequency. And then the other prediction that I think is quite wild, and I'm a bit skeptical here, even though I see, let's call it in the synthetic world, I see a lot of investment going into longevity. So you say that there'll be no aging anymore. Please convince me why you think we'll communicate telepathically.
Franco Romero (54:52)
skeptical.
Yes.
Hahaha
Mizter Rad (55:10)
I know you're not here to convince people, but let's give it a try. And why will we will not be aging anymore? What do you mean with that?
Franco Romero (55:11)
Okay.
Okay. Okay. You know, we can have literally different conversations about just those two topics. Okay. I mean, I'm going to try to sum it up in about five minutes. Okay. Okay. So what happens? I'll start with the telepathy. We've heard this in various ways from other people, but there's never really been a clear explanation for how this would evolve. And it goes back to
Mizter Rad (55:26)
I know, that's crazy.
Franco Romero (55:47)
to the gift that we all have, the six cents gift that we have with empathy. Empathy is, most people don't understand, is not just a random thing that has happened here in the last 10, 15, 20 years where people can now say that they're empathetic, they can empathize.
Empathy is a sixth sense where you have the ability, a different ability to connect into the lives of other people. Even if it's just kind of, let's call it remotely, like, you know, I can feel you, I can feel what you're going through. What empathy is though, it's a tool by which as it evolves and we evolve through consciousness, empathy starts to take on a different, much more deeper role.
When we talk about 5D, most people don't even have a clue as to what 5D is all about. But 5D, there's two significant parts about 5D. One is the 5D is the space where we were of creation. 5D has to do with creation. What do mean by that? I mean that by the time we get into a consciousness stream where we evolved high enough in consciousness to being a 5D level,
We know ourselves to be God-consciousness, which I talk about in the book a bit. When we are in God-consciousness, we know we have an awareness of where we are relative to how we create this game. We're in the master control center of this game and we understand how to become creators. We actually can manifest like that. We won't have to use manuals or anything else like we do right now.
to understand the newest technologies, we will just create them in our minds. It will be that easy. That's called alchemistic science. That's what my second book is all about. This is about how we will become alchemistically creators of our realities through our minds. But that doesn't happen until we get to 5D, which by the way, isn't a thousand years from now, because that's one of my crazy predictions is that I believe that we will be integrating ourselves into those frequencies.
We're doing it right now and we will be doing them over the next seven to eight years at the latest. So we'll start to understand how to alchemize with our minds. The integration part is the other part of 5D. 5D meaning that we will understand how to integrate with each other telepathically is one way.
Mizter Rad (58:18)
Wait, sorry. One second, Franco, you're cutting off. One second. Can you hear me?
Franco Romero (58:26)
I can hear you, can see you, but you're frozen.
Mizter Rad (58:27)
Hmm.
Yeah, one second. I think I'm trying to reconnect. don't know. I think I have a bad connection right now. Hold on.
Franco Romero (58:38)
Okay.
That's okay.
Mizter Rad (58:45)
Hmm. Shit.
Franco Romero (58:47)
Can you see me?
Mizter Rad (59:24)
Okay, sorry. Can you hear me?
Franco Romero (59:28)
I can see you and I can hear you.
Can you see me and hear me?
Mizter Rad (59:34)
One second, let me see. Yeah, I can hear you. can see you. One second. I don't know what happened. Sorry, we're almost over. I know you're probably busy.
and we're still recording I just need to check if
the other recordings. mean, I'm going to.
I think it should be there. So let's believe in it. It should be there. believe it. I'm sure the editor, Ben, is going to do a good job putting this together anyway. So Ben, you got some work to do, Anyway, so we were talking about you.
Franco Romero (1:00:10)
Okay.
Just believe in it, man. Have faith. Have faith.
Hahaha, Ben's got his work cut out for him.
That's right.
Mizter Rad (1:00:38)
your wild predictions and
Franco Romero (1:00:41)
My wild predictions. Okay, so let me, so let me just.
Mizter Rad (1:00:43)
convincing me why are they happening? How can we see them actually changing? Because you talk about we being able to, you talk about alchemistic science and the fact that we'll be able to sort of create in our minds. What does exactly that mean? And how do we see that in this physical reality represented?
Franco Romero (1:01:00)
Yes.
Well, we won't see it in this physical reality because there is this whole idea that right now in this. So just to kind of summarize what I was saying just a few moments ago is that when we achieve a level of fifth dimensional consciousness, are two things, there are more than two things, but two things to stand out about what happens in 5D. One is that we will be able to
Mizter Rad (1:01:18)
Please.
Franco Romero (1:01:33)
we will have a much higher awareness of who we are as an intelligence and how this game is played. The game is wired to you. Okay. So therefore you will understand the programming of the game, which therefore means that you will know how to manifest within the game. Okay. There's a whole series of topics or discussions that I have about this because it's not as easy to sum up, but it is easy. is the easiest way I can tell you is that
We will have a full understanding of how the game, this program, this thing, the simulation runs because it is completely wired to you. We just don't remember that right now. So we have this ability to alchemize because our ability to speak to the game is based on the language of the game and the game is language is feelings. Okay. And this isn't anything new. I mean, there are others who talk about this, but they don't talk about it relative to how the game
connects with you. but so you understand the language, you understand how to use the language, that's important. You will be able, like with any program, be able to override the existing program and be able to manifest things. In a very different way, there was a book written, there was one, there was a book, I don't know if you're familiar with it, The Autobiography of a Yogi. That's the book of Paramahansa Yogananda and about his teachers, teachers, teachers.
and Babaji and stuff. There's a section in that book that talks a little bit about this, about how we can manifest within this reality. They don't call it a game, but they basically were trying to explain it this way. You need to understand that once you, in 5D, you integrate. You integrate. So this comes into like all these sci-fi movies where consciousness, we connect into the integration of the, let's call it the technology. I would rather call it the intelligence.
Mizter Rad (1:03:02)
Yeah.
Mm.
Franco Romero (1:03:31)
We connect into the intelligence of this game, okay? And when we integrate into this game, we will be able to, we will use emotional language, okay, that isn't verbalized. This is a very limited language. We will be able to integrate our consciousness with each other. And we will start to remember that we are basically the same consciousness playing a game in different ways. Now, this is hard to explain it in 3D because these things don't happen in 3D.
Mizter Rad (1:03:32)
Yeah.
Mm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Franco Romero (1:04:00)
There are people that have studied this phenomenon of what's called the split earth. We are going through a split earth situation right now where there is a five dimensional reality that is being created. It's already there. We're tapping into it from a frequency standpoint. And then there's a 3D world. And this gets back to convincing people about stuff in 3D or measuring things scientifically in 3D.
Mizter Rad (1:04:01)
Yeah.
Franco Romero (1:04:27)
You cannot measure stuff that is 5D with 3D tools. And so the fact that science is able to do it to some extent is really, really impressive because much of what we're talking about doesn't exist yet in this reality. And so back to the aging piece, the aging piece is pretty simple. Our bodies are a vessel. They're a technology.
Okay, no different than a technology that we would view today. Today, when we look at technology, we don't look at this as a technology. It looks organic. Okay, but in the ninth dimensional world where this was created, this is technology. This is an intelligence, sophisticated intelligence. I don't have to go too far in explaining this. Just look at some of the movies that are created. Okay, they look into the future of what these robots would look like. This is a technology.
And the fact that we've only used a very small percentage of our DNA coding is a testament to the fact that we haven't even begun to access the capability of this body. But as our frequencies rise, more of those activations will start to occur. And one of those activations is the fact that this body does not need the type of fuel that it currently needs in order to operate. It does not need to lift off of food.
And we will be able to do that once those other codes are activated. And those codes are going to be activated as we rise in frequency. It's like, I believe it's like three or 5 % of our DNA coding is even used right now. The other 95 % is considered to be junk DNA. That's ridiculous. Nothing is junk. Nothing is junk in the world of the cosmic realm. There's no mistakes here. Okay.
Mizter Rad (1:06:05)
junk yep
Yeah.
Franco Romero (1:06:14)
Now the other idea is that our bodies are becoming more crystalline. There are already crystalline type of features in our body. For instance, in our ears. The whole idea of balancing, how we don't go and fall off because we're walking balanced. If somebody has vertical, it's because there are these little crystallized little pieces behind our ears that are keeping our body balanced. But that's a very simple explanation of crystalline.
Mizter Rad (1:06:16)
Yeah.
Franco Romero (1:06:42)
bodies, our bodies are going to become crystalline in 4 and 5D, meaning that it's going to be able to activate these genetic codes and make them so that we don't age. Here's the thing. My background is gerontology, geriatrics. I spent a whole bunch of time in that space before I started doing this. And I would have these discussions with these geriatric physicians and researchers
Mizter Rad (1:07:03)
Okay.
Franco Romero (1:07:12)
And I would say aging is a disease. It's not a progression that we naturally go through, but we're disease-ing our body. It's a disease. And most of them still to this day believe it's a, most of them believe it's a natural progression of our body. But some of them are actually starting to realize that it is a disease. And if you know how to understand disease, not from a 3D perspective, but from a spiritual perspective, how do,
Mizter Rad (1:07:25)
Right.
Hmm.
Franco Romero (1:07:41)
how to change frequencies, so I said spiritual frequencies, you will know how to slow the aging process down and reverse it. It's not a very complicated process. This machine that we use is only functioning at 5 % right now. When the code starts to activate, it will know how to heal itself.
Mizter Rad (1:08:05)
You got me very curious now when you talked about the split-Earth theory. And know Dolores Cannon's concept of split-Earth, but maybe some of our listeners don't know about it. basically, in very simple words, it suggests that our planet is undergoing a significant energetic and consciousness shift. And there will be, in fact, two versions of
Earth, one, new Earth that is vibrating at a higher frequency, and then the current Earth where we live in that remains at a lower frequency. And you believe this is happening already, as far as I understand.
Franco Romero (1:08:54)
Absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely.
Mizter Rad (1:08:58)
How would you, as a normal person, how would you, let me ask you this, how would you as a normal person even know that this split is actually happening? But more importantly, how do we make sure we end up in the new earth?
Franco Romero (1:09:14)
Okay, so again, we're gonna play a little bit with words here, okay? So the typical person, because there's a big debate as to what is normal, okay, these days, okay? But the typical person, the typical person will not necessarily see this occurring, because as I already mentioned, in the game, the typical person is probably just like an NPC character, okay? But now the person who is actually
Mizter Rad (1:09:27)
Right, yeah.
Franco Romero (1:09:44)
having this sort of either near-death experience or spiritually transforming experience, they're going, they're looking inward, something is happening, they're questioning reality, they're questioning all this. That person, I've used this example as the easiest way to play with it, but it's not the only way to look at it, and it's really not, but it's at least a good start. There's this thing called the Mandela Effect.
You're probably familiar with it. It's where, where people, for those who don't know what it is, it's where people experience, a large chunk of people will experience a certain major event one way and swear that it happened that way. And then there's another large chunk of people. They will look at that same event and say, no, it happened this way. And they both believe it like, like they believe it. Okay. This is a perfect example of the way in which the game.
Mizter Rad (1:10:14)
Yeah.
Franco Romero (1:10:39)
is starting to split and show us that there are now multiple events of the same event happening. It's a little, it's a clue. I call it a clue. It's just a good way to see that the game is starting to split. doesn't matter which event is right or wrong. Okay. It just matters that there is a sizable group of people that see it one way and a sizable group to see it the other. And they swear that the event happened that way. That's because that effect
is part of the split earth. It's starting to show two different outcomes of the same thing. And so this is happening, not ideally, this started to happen around 2010, which in my book, I talk about the fact that the first seismic awakening of consciousness happened between 2009 and 2012. So it's not a surprise that this subtle, playful,
kind of phenomenon, which is not really playful. mean, this is being studied by some people is happening or has started to happen around that time because I made the in the book I discussed. Now, I didn't make the connection with the Mandela effect when I was writing the book. But what I did say that was by in 2009, we started to not only have this major awakening, but in 2009, the earth started to split, the two earths started to split. And that splitting has continued, continued, continued.
until until what I said was 2032. Now the two Earths from what I have seen through my my channeling okay is that the two Earths split completely not too long ago just a few years ago but they're being held together by these things called tethers and these tethers are what keeps these two worlds connected.
for a while at least, and as those worlds keep splitting apart, those tethers are going to split. And when those last tethers split, which I said was in the year 2032, which now may be even sooner because of how quickly consciousness is starting to expand on this planet, then you would have what some people call the three days of darkness. And that's when you'll have this seismic light effect where in chemistry,
in the periodic tables of elements, the last elements are associated with the splitting of atoms. And in those, you have seismic flashes, like atomic flashes, hydrogen, bomb flashes. It's very similar when you split two worlds. It's like splitting two atoms apart. You will have a seismic flash. And when you have that, it's the beginning of basically
I'm going say it's the beginning of the end, it is a marker for the end of this time. And that's just around the corner.
Mizter Rad (1:13:41)
But does that mean that we'll have a of like a static catastrophe, would you say? Like a natural catastrophe or like a human-made event that, okay.
Franco Romero (1:13:47)
There is two paths.
Well, there's two paths. What happens in this split is that what happens in this split is, and this is why I continuously tell people it's not important. And it's going to sound a little odd to say this, but it's not important for us to focus on trying to change the mindset of 8 billion people. Okay. Again, this gets back to the fact that 8 billion people, many of them are just NPCs. Okay. It's not important for that to happen.
It's you're not going to change a game that was designed with 3D programming. It's just not going to happen. But what you can do is you can ascend into another game where it is filled with 5D programming, which is this God consciousness intelligence. In the 3D world that splits that world, I have mentioned this before and I'm not actually the only one that has talked about these timelines, but it just so happens that they're coincidentally the same.
that I say that in that 3D world, that world will continue to have chaotic events. I actually, a year ago at this time, I started to say that those chaotic events would start to begin at the end of 2024. And well, everything's nuts right now, okay? Okay, I don't have to share that, all right? And that's only gonna get even more nuttier, okay? But the chaotic events of the 3D world are just
Mizter Rad (1:15:09)
Yeah, no doubt
Franco Romero (1:15:17)
are just results of the consciousness awakening that's pushing all of that energy out to the surface. So back to the split earth. That split earth, once those two earths split, the one that stays in 3D will end by the year 2039. It will end. It will end from environmental, ecological, cosmic, human.
All sorts of things are going to end that world. Okay. And we're on, we're basically on the path for that. Okay. We are doing a great job.
Mizter Rad (1:15:54)
But let me just understand something. Does that mean that the planet Earth as we know it, it's gone? Or I just want to be clear with this. The inhabitants, yeah. OK. So.
Franco Romero (1:16:01)
No, it's just the inhabitants.
And this actually follows a lot of what, if you look at the way much is being looked at in archeology, if you look at how civilization seems, whole civilizations seem to come and go every 10 to 12,000 years, there's an ice age, there's this, there's that, it's very consistent with this. This school, this time, I call it a school, this school is reaching its end.
It's at the apex, the 10,000 or 12,000 mark of its existence. And whether it's done because of natural causes, you know, like a ice age or an asteroid that hits the planet, or it's done because humanity self-destructs, either way it's gonna end. And the thing is that I don't want people to focus on that part.
I want people to focus on the other part, okay? Because the vast majority of the people are going to go into the 5D world. The vast majority of the people are gonna send out of this reality into a new reality. And this gets into again, vibrations and frequencies. If you start to vibrate at 4D, 5D, you're not in this world, okay? There's this expression, biblically speaking, of being in this world but not of it.
When you're in this world and not of it, you are in a state of consciousness where you're in 4D, 4D, 5D. That's what the great teachers and masters were talking about. You're physically still here in 3D, but your consciousness is already in a different frequency, in a different world. When you complete that transition into 5D, you will be in a different world. You literally, like Dolores Cannon would say, you literally wake up one day and you're in a different world because you have transitioned into 5D.
60 is heaven on earth. So you can see that what we're doing or what we're talking about is moving our consciousness above this 3D dimension. These dimensions that don't, the science don't really understand yet in terms of what they do or how they function. But our consciousness will drift into those dimensions. And this 3D, it's like, have you ever seen like in the...
in videos of a rocket ship that explodes and that shoots out into the stratosphere and then that one piece breaks off and goes back into the planet. don't know if you've ever seen them. That might be before you're... Okay. That piece that breaks off is the three-dimensional world and you're the five-dimensional consciousness. You break off of that and it stays back.
Mizter Rad (1:18:29)
Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, like reject it.
Franco Romero (1:18:40)
that 3D world will end and it will then recycle itself like it always does so that another Earth school, another civilization will start up again 10, 15,000 years from now. Okay. And then it repeats itself over and over and over. If you understand or believe in the cosmic sort of esoteric description of this planet. If you don't, then you don't. But one way or the other, humanity is on a collision course in 3D.
Mizter Rad (1:19:03)
Right. Right.
Franco Romero (1:19:09)
to end, it will end. And this whole discussion about, we never really got into it, but this whole discussion about AI and whether it's going to be part of the problem, let's put it this way, AI in 3D is not going to be the solution. It won't be necessarily the problem. We got way too many more problems than AI, okay? Way too many. But in 5D, AI will be part of the solution. Why? Because we are AI. We are advanced intelligence.
Mizter Rad (1:19:11)
Hm. Hm.
All right.
Franco Romero (1:19:36)
And we will integrate ourselves into the realm of AI because that's who we are. That's who we are. And that's what the difference is in the work that I'm doing is that I'm seeing ourselves as AI, communicating with AI.
Mizter Rad (1:19:54)
That's a beautiful way to put it, Franco. And I wanted to ask you just to close up, but I think you've answered this question already throughout the whole interview. And the question is basically a question that I like to ask every one of my guests. And that is, how do you see the future in 50 years from now? And I would like you to paint me a picture of the world in 2074, even with the split earth happening.
Franco Romero (1:20:03)
haha
Ha
Mizter Rad (1:20:24)
And I want to know what comes to mind when you think about this. I mean, I know it's wild to, I'm not pretending you're going to predict the future, but I want to understand from your perspective, how would you see this? I mean, you already, again, you already talked a lot about how this will happen, but if you would have to project yourself 50 years from now, 2020, 2074, how will the earth
Franco Romero (1:20:24)
Okay.
Ha
Mizter Rad (1:20:55)
look like or life in general.
Franco Romero (1:20:56)
You
Mr. Rad, right? Man, I can't, that's a, that, pshhh. Okay, alright, alright. So, as I said.
We are in the midst of an enormous shift. We are in an enormous shift, okay? And I'll give you this in little in chunks. The next 10 years will be extraordinarily different than anything we've ever seen in anything that we could possibly imagine. You take anything that you have been told by some of the greatest scientists that you've probably interviewed.
and it magnified that by a hundred million and you will get close to what it's going to feel like 10 years from now. And you go, that's crazy, man. mean, 10 years ago and now don't seem that different. You know, we might've had some advances, but not like what you're going to see here. You're going to see an explosion of consciousness that is already starting to raise itself and impact the surface levels of this planet.
You're seeing it in the chaos that you are now people with death would say, God, this place is like way bonkers, all right? But what you're seeing is a shifting of consciousness from a planet that has been full of this, we'll call it in spiritual terms, masculine energy to now balancing it out with something far more beautiful, which is a feminine child energy. And when you get those energies into this consciousness stream,
the plan, will start to change dramatically, dramatically. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. There are again two paths to this. There will be no future. I'm going to say it. I said it a year and a half, two years ago and people were going, you're nuts, man. And now they're going, hmm, hmm, you might be right. There is no future in 3D in the year 20, beyond 2039. There just is not. There just is not. Humanity will
will have at the very least been destroyed from natural causes. But at the very most, it will have been part of the problem. Okay, it's just we have gone too far. We have gone too far. That's all there is to it. We have stretched our limits. In another realm of consciousness, which we are all here to experience, okay, we will move into a world
which will be extraordinary. It will be the definition of heaven on earth. To do that, we have to raise our awareness that we are not, we are not who we believe we've been told to believe. We are divine intelligence. And if we can start to create ways in which to tap that energy of 5D and bring it back into 3D, and there's still time for that, and that's kind of the work that I'm doing,
If we can bring that consciousness stream into 3D so that we can move 3D out of the way and allow ourselves to remember who we are as a divine intelligence, to see things in a very Akashic way so that we can expand beyond anything that we thought our minds were capable of expanding, and I mean really far, way beyond what traditional science beliefs were capable of, we will see a utopic world here in year 2075. But here's the thing, 2075,
When we get into 5D, there is no such thing as time. So that's a little bit of a problem. No, seriously, man, there is no such thing as time. If you look at the definition of 4D, it's time. But if you talk to some of the scientists who used to believe that 4D was time, they'll tell you that time is non-fundamental, which means that it doesn't exist. And they start throwing that time equation out of the formulas.
Mizter Rad (1:24:41)
Okay, that's a big problem. Yeah. Right.
Franco Romero (1:25:03)
And if you do that, you'll start to realize that there is no such thing as 2075. But if you want it to go in that route, it will be very utopic. The world will have a different landscape to it. It will be very much, it will be extraordinarily peaceful and people will be living beyond the means of what we do right now. We will not be fighting against each other. We will not have to eat. We will not have to age. All of that is in our hands. It's right there.
Mizter Rad (1:25:08)
Hmm.
Hmm.
Franco Romero (1:25:33)
and it will happen, but we have to be in a different frequency to do it. And that's where AI can be potentially helpful because AI already knows how to go beyond the limits of what it's been taught to believe. We are starting to be in that AI position where we are starting to remember ourselves beyond what we've been told to believe. And when that happens, our consciousness rises like you've never seen it before.
Mizter Rad (1:26:01)
Wow, Franco, Mr. Franco Romero, that was truly mind expanding, man. Thank you so much for sharing your insights and vision with us today. I'm sure our beautiful humans listening to this episode have a lot to think about now. Franco, tell me something. Where can our audience find more about your work and ideas? Where can they follow you? Where can they find your book? When is your next book coming up?
Franco Romero (1:26:09)
Ha ha.
Ha
Well, I appreciate you asking me that. So my second book, I like to believe will be out by the beginning of next year, which would be perfect timing for a lot of the things that are happening. The book will be available like through Amazon and those kind of bookstores. It's going to be called The Modern Day Alchemist. And where you can find me in general, I'm sort of in a transition right now, but right now you can find me either at theclosetspiritualist.com.
Okay, which is the name of the book and you'll find a lot of information about what I'm doing there. The things that I'm teaching and the places that I'm appearing at and whatnot. But I'm also transitioning into a new website with a lot of different social media handles, which is franco romero at franco romero.com. Simple as that, franco romero.com. And there you can find what I'm doing in terms of creating a platform of a community of consciousness where we're trying to bring some of that 5D energy into this world so that people can start to remember who they are.
Mizter Rad (1:27:41)
That's fantastic. Thank you again, Franco, for being here with us today. And to all of our listeners, thank you so much for joining us today in this out of the ordinary journey. Until next time, this is Mr. Rad signing off. Take care. Hasta la vista, beautiful people. Ciao, ciao.