25. Building a Nation: Liberland's Progress with President Vit Jedlicka.
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[00:00:00] Vit Jedlicka: everybody that stays in Liberland now for 25 days gets citizenship, and they also get as many merits as they have deserved throughout their stay.
So right now everybody reports on a daily basis. And these merits basically end up like their claim to the piece of land. The minimal amount of merits necessary to claim a piece of land is 5, 000. That translates into 500 meters of land in Liberland. And right now people are just free to choose whatever spot they want.
As long as they have merits, they can just go and start building, which is pretty exciting.
[00:00:48] Mizter Rad: Hello, beautiful Humans. Losing personal freedom has become a global concern, particularly in the aftermath of the pandemic.. Individuals that were skeptical of vaccination programs found themselves excluded from social events, travel, public spaces, and many more things.
For me, personal freedom is an important, if not the most important human value, and today I'm excited to welcome a guest on my show who shares this sentiment. Whether you agree or not with our guest, believe in his ideas or not, or even consider him eccentric, one thing is certain. He's courageously endeavoring to establish a new nation in times where starting a new country sounds crazy.
cornerstone of this nation is a commitment to safeguarding the individual freedoms and liberties of its citizens at any cost.
Please welcome for the second time in my show, Vit Jedlica, the president of Liberland, the new European nation between Croatia and Serbia. Vit, how are you doing?
[00:01:52] Vit Jedlicka: It's amazing. It's amazing. You know, a lot of things have radically changed. Uh, there are now five houses in Liberland. And there is 20 people living there. And we are moving big machinery and big investors. And we established our borders and now have our border guards.
We're getting bigger ships and the marinas is on the horizon. As well as heliport. So like amazing I think results in just one month of... when you let freedom to flourish somewhere You... and I was expecting that, you know, you always get very quickly very nice results.
[00:02:27] Mizter Rad: So you have how many people you said living there right now?
[00:02:30] Vit Jedlicka: I think 25 actually right now
[00:02:32] Mizter Rad: 25 people. Okay. Listen last time when we talked, you told me something that I found interesting. And you said that you decided to start a country from scratch because you wanted to create a society that has, on the one hand, less regulations, and on the other hand, more opportunity for growing faster, at least faster than the, you know, 1 to 2 percent that we're used to in the In our world, in the social democratic systems.
So I guess what I wanna know is how is Liberland growing so far?
[00:03:06] Vit Jedlicka: Well, I think the, the growth is exponential. You know, if I would just extrapolate this growth for the end of the year, I think we're like 6000% or something. . So, well, the beginning, right? Right.
[00:03:18] Mizter Rad: But in what? In what? In what kind of measure?
What, what are you measuring in this case?
[00:03:22] Vit Jedlicka: Kind of GDP inside of the country. You know, meaning, meaning we started with zero. So like our growth is already kind of infinite because, because we, we are growing from zero. But on the other hand, you know, like right now, let's say we have six houses and I can see how things are really changing and there will be 40 houses next month. And, and then there will be 150 houses. And then the whole thing will just flourish.
Like, like it never did anywhere else in the world.
[00:03:48] Mizter Rad: These houses are built by the Liberlanders?, or do you have a company that helps you build, inland, the houses or how does that work? Or are the houses prebuilt and taken there or...
[00:04:00] Vit Jedlicka: there at least four owners of construction companies or five actually right now living in Liberland.
They all have their companies, construction companies at home. They're slowly bringing their workers from their countries. There're two Lithuanians. Two Czech guys that have construction companies. Two Croatian guys that have construction company. So like right now it's kind of a get together of owners of construction companies in Liberland, which, and who are helping each other to assess what is the best way to move forward.
[00:04:31] Mizter Rad: So these people, when they move there, do they buy the piece of land?
[00:04:37] Vit Jedlicka: Well, everybody that has merits, that have contributed somehow to Liberland in PATH, has the right to settle or homestead piece of Liberland. And everybody that stays in Liberland now for 25 days gets citizenship, and they also get as many merits as they have deserved throughout their stay.
So right now everybody reports on a daily basis. And these merits basically end up, uh, like their claim to the piece of land. The minimal amount of merits necessary to claim a piece of land is 5, 000. That translates into 500 meters of land in Liberland. And right now people are just free to choose whatever spot they want.
As long as they have merits, they can just go and start building, which is pretty exciting.
[00:05:15] Mizter Rad: So if I'm a person that wants to visit Liberland and I stay longer than 25 days, and then on top of that, I get more than 5k in Merits, which is your currency, I get a 500 square meter piece of land, more or less.
Is that how it would work?
[00:05:33] Vit Jedlicka: You can homestead 500 square meters of land. And if you build on it, it will be registered also in the Catastre.
[00:05:40] Mizter Rad: Oh, okay. Interesting.
Last time we talked, you wanted to put the land registry. The registry of all the all the real estate in Liberland, on the blockchain.
Is this already working?
[00:05:51] Vit Jedlicka: It's working, but to be honest with you right now, it's not directly connected with the blockchain.
We probably need one more week to do it, but it's really not important at this stage. We're kind of managing it. There are no disputes on the horizon. 99. 9 percent of land in Liberland is still free to settle. So, you know, we're, I'm happy that the, that the Catastro is working pretty neatly and it doesn't need to, it's just a database thing, but the connection to the blockchain will happen fairly soon.
And then the parcels will be traded as NFTs.
[00:06:24] Mizter Rad: Okay. And very soon, you mean, and you hope for what, for example? One month, two months, six months, one year?
[00:06:31] Vit Jedlicka: I think we're able to do it next week if we want to, but there are some other priorities more important than that.
[00:06:37] Mizter Rad: What are the priorities right now, for example?
[00:06:41] Vit Jedlicka: I mean, I already asked them to do it next week, so our PHP guys are working on it. But right now, I would say finishing the audit of the whole blockchain governance is quite important. And, uh, you know, making sure that the last nuances of the... Of the bigger picture of basically the constitutions are properly translated into the blockchain governance. And the proper decentralization of the whole system are, are, let's say, key, key elements.
Then, you know, we've got already lineup of exchanges that want to list us. And there is like a huge queue of investors. It's amazing what has happened in one month.
[00:07:18] Mizter Rad: So when you talk about investors, you mean people like the construction company owners that come in and invest. And start building there or
[00:07:26] Vit Jedlicka: people people dumping bitcoin in exchange for merits.
[00:07:31] Mizter Rad: Ah, okay I see. Is that the only way right now to buy merits or can you also buy?
[00:07:37] Vit Jedlicka: There we've got six different payment methods,
[00:07:40] Mizter Rad: okay Okay. Interesting. Interesting.
[00:07:43] Vit Jedlicka: But once, once, once Merit, we had to double the price of Merit because the inflow of capital was simply too fast. And it's also a nice way to reward yearly investors.
But I think we will have to at least quadruple it before going to exchanges in order not to basically sell off all Liberland at once. And we don't have any reason to do that. Basically the market will decide of the value of the land and it's already skyrocketing.
[00:08:06] Mizter Rad: Is there a finite amount of merit?
[00:08:09] Vit Jedlicka: Yep. Merits represent 7 million square meters in Liberland, so there is 70 million merits.
[00:08:15] Mizter Rad: Ah, okay. It's 7 square kilometers of land, right?
[00:08:20] Vit Jedlicka: Yes. Yeah, yeah. 7 million square meters and that represents 70 million merits.
[00:08:26] Mizter Rad: Okay. Interesting. Interesting. Tell me something. Last time we talked, Croatia was not in Schengen yet.
Now Croatia is in Schengen. What, how did that affect Liberland?
[00:08:38] Vit Jedlicka: It was extremely useful because they basically become part of an empire and that reigned them in. So they, they lost the sovereignty over their borders. And, uh, that really helped us to, to get through them. Because they would be probably beating us until now if, if, on the border, if we, if they didn't join Schengen.
There were two other elements which were quite helpful. The other one was the, the video by Niko Omilana, where he got beaten by Croatian policemen while sticking the flag in Liberland. And the very cool thing was that the, the policeman that beat him was the brother of the chief of the local police. And that, that helped quite a lot because the gentleman would probably go five years to jail if we sued him.
So that was another very important historical element.
[00:09:24] Mizter Rad: This gentleman that you mentioned is, is, uh, is a Liberlander or what's his name again?
[00:09:29] Vit Jedlicka: Now, Niko Omilana is a Liberlander, of course, he received passport and he will also receive highest state award when he comes back, I hope, in couple of next weeks.
And, uh, maybe next month, maybe I'm going to come back with him. And it's going to be a big event. This is one of the, I don't know, top 50 YouTubers. And he helped us enormously with putting together a great story. He said that it was actually the longest shoot of a video that he has ever done because he spent with us more than three weeks.
But it's really nicely describes the whole story of eight years of struggling to get to Liberland and we do kind of a nice happy end. And that really opened the doors to Liberland. So they realized they cannot indefinitely beat us on the border. And another element was that I'm, I'm a big fan of the Croatian president Milanovic, and I was, I had a pleasure to meet him, uh, during one of the major diplomatic or business events in Zagreb, and I think there was some... Spark and we, and I think that was also very important, uh, historical thing that happened for, for our relations with Croatia. So these three things happening at the same time opened us doors to settle Liberland. The border was open on 6th of August. So. Right now it's actually one and a half month, uh, exactly from, from opening of borders and that really made a huge difference, not that things are easy.
Like the local Croatian police is trying to do all they can to make it difficult for us. buT that's also the fun part, you know, like it would be too boring if it if everything just went smoothly. So We have a we have a lot of fun with the local croatian police. They are coming up with more and more ridiculous ways how they're trying to stop us from developing Liberland and we kind of enjoy it already so...
[00:11:20] Mizter Rad: Tell me more about the borders because you said that after croatia joined schengen
they lost sovereignty of their borders.. What do you mean with that?
[00:11:31] Vit Jedlicka: Well, yes, they basically gave up the control to, to Schengen institutions and to, you know, other, other institutions. They're under much closer surveillance by other countries. You know, they're no longer, they're basically part of the empire. And the empire is not like, uh, that much interested and, you know, they were not supposed to join. They were not supposed to join the Schengen before they clarified their borders, but they did it anyway. And it was, that was kind of, that was quite a luck for us because again, that opened it, that opened the doors.
[00:12:08] Mizter Rad: Okay. I see. So, so when you say the empire is the European union, I guess.
[00:12:13] Vit Jedlicka: Well, they call them some empire, uh, it's an empire.
So, um, I'm just quoting them.
[00:12:20] Mizter Rad: I didn't know. They use that. Word..
Interesting. Tell me something. Let's talk about the physical space. Cause I think, the seven square kilometers of your territory. I think that's very interesting for people that haven't been there and they can't imagine. Again, if you don't know what Liberland is if you're listening to this right now If you don't know what Liberland is there's a lot of stuff online as well. I already recorded an episode with Vit before. Last year.
That's episode number four of the Mizter Rad Show so go and listen to that if you want to get more basic info On Liberland, the new country in Europe.
But talking about the territory, what happened with the construction of the village in Serbia that you mentioned last time?
[00:13:01] Vit Jedlicka: Well, it's going quite well, except of the paperwork, you know, that's, you know, we always, I've always said, like, we will actually build first skyscraper before we fix the building permit here in Serbia.
And it is like that, you know, things are quite difficult. That's why Serbia is not doing that well, because there is always problem, some problem. Like in our case, it's a problem is that the mayor of the city, uh, authorized the building permit, but he was not authorized to authorize the building permits.
It was supposed to be done by some person at the building department. And now our building permit is basically invalid and nobody knows how to fix it. So all the buildings are illegal from that perspective because the mayor signed the the papers, not the authorized person. And, uh, nobody told me that when we were acquiring that property.
And there is like 10 other problematic things where you have 10 other agencies that are trying to tell you that this is a flooding zone or whatever. This is a natural park. This is so even though the resort is technically finished. Like legalizing it and and like continuing the construction is just complete mess because, because, because simply it's, uh, it's one of the reasons why we started Liberland.
[00:14:09] Mizter Rad: But if this is not part of the Liberland territory. Of the island, uh, the Liberty Island. And it's in actually Serbian territory, how is this part of Liberland, or it's not technically...
[00:14:22] Vit Jedlicka: it's not part of Liberland. It's one of the, let's say 30 diaspora villages that are around the world, uh, that where Liberlanders are highly concentrated. And funnily enough, we were classified by the Croatian, uh, services as a training camp for Liberlanders. So they see it as a training camp.
I just, I just read the report in my hand not too long ago. That was funny to read. So for us, yes, it is a meeting ground for Liberlanders. And, uh, and it's, it's a good, nice, very nice space for kids and for locals to get together. Our minister of foreign affairs is now based there more than he's in Liberland because he's got a little bit better infrastructure. And most of our diplomatic notes are being sent from there instead of from Prague like it used to be. Now more, more, more, more diplomacy is done out of, out of Arc. Which has a very nice office space, open office space and the second upper floor just above the restaurant. And it's very lively, lively there. We're also planning to launch a school in parallel to school in Liberland. You know, so that the local Liberlanders have place to place their kids so they don't have to send them to Serbian schools.
[00:15:31] Mizter Rad: Okay. Tell me more about that. The people that are living there right now, do they have access to clean water, services in general, internet, et cetera, or how does that work?
[00:15:42] Vit Jedlicka: Yeah, pretty much everything is there. There was a nice broadcast from, from Liberland yesterday. Uh, yeah, we've got right now four water filters.
We've got well. Another well is being built. Uh, another, and, um, you know, the Marina itself is connected directly with the water in Danube. And, uh, the water filters are working quite, quite fine, so we no longer have to bring any bottled water. And I just wish, you know, one of my, not regulations in Liberland, but just wishes, I really hate plastic bottles.
I wish we could stick with the glass bottles for restaurants and for public places because of the culture of not having plastic bottles simply. So we're trying to just be a little bit, uh, culturally up, up tone in this regard. Of course, anybody is free to use whatever plastic bottles. But that's just my own personal wish that we don't have plastics lying around in Liberland.
And it kind of goes a little bit against another project that we have quite seriously about the recycling plant, uh, working on it right now. It's a 1. 5 million Euro project where we would take all the plastic and all the paper from all region. We would turn it into construction materials. Which is pretty exciting project,
[00:16:54] Mizter Rad: is this a private company private investors coming into that?
[00:16:59] Vit Jedlicka: Yeah. Yeah
[00:17:00] Mizter Rad: So all the plastic from the region would let's say come into that plant and that would be sort of like one of your economic activities, at first.
[00:17:09] Vit Jedlicka: They would be paying us to get rid of their trash and we would turn their trash. And we're always joking that we're going to turn all the fines that they have given us, which is quite a lot of, you know, while we were getting into Liberland that we will recycle them and build houses out of it.
So yes, that's the plan.
[00:17:30] Mizter Rad: Do you already have interested clients for this?
[00:17:34] Vit Jedlicka: We're just promoting the idea locally, you know, like they don't recycle in the whole region. So we would have to build recycling culture. Both in Serbia and in Croatia. But I think it's one of those, let's say cultural projects that we could install in the region and make profit out of it.
[00:17:51] Mizter Rad: Yeah. Tell me more about the economy. Cause I I'm interested about that. How are you growing basically in terms of commerce, in terms of funding?
[00:18:01] Vit Jedlicka: Exponentially, that's one word.
[00:18:03] Mizter Rad: WEll, when you go from zero to something, it's, much easier than growing when you're already at some point, maybe stagnating, like a lot of countries in Europe. But tell me more about this. Do you have any commerce already? Are you.... I'm guessing. You are importing all the stuff. Is that correct?
[00:18:23] Vit Jedlicka: Yeah, there is a supermarket in Liberland. There is a restaurant in Liberland. There is quite a, quite a few services there already. You know, massage therapy is just moved in. Um, you know, there is somebody that does the service.
Yeah. Pedicure is coming in next week. That's going to be quite exciting. I'll have to go back to Liberland to get, to get pedicure. So, like, things are really like developing extremely fast. If you really consider that it's just one and a half ago when we were let in, uh, and we were surprised by that. It was a bit unexpected.
[00:18:55] Mizter Rad: What do you mean that one month and a half you got, you got in, what do you mean?
[00:19:01] Vit Jedlicka: On 6th of August, we were surprised by the fact that we could enter Liberland without being detained.
[00:19:07] Mizter Rad: Ah, and you were detained before in Croatia. That's what you were talking about before.
[00:19:11] Vit Jedlicka: Yeah, we're always thrown in the jail for illegally exiting Croatia.
[00:19:15] Mizter Rad: Ah, okay. I see. And now they cannot do that anymore.
[00:19:19] Vit Jedlicka: Well, they stopped doing it because I think there's a combination of these three elements. So they opened the border in a sense that they ask for a passport when you go to Liberland.
And when you go back from Liberland to Croatia, they're going to ask for your passport and they make notes who is in and who is out. Sometimes they also enter Liberland and double check if they do have their passport things in order, but I think it's not going to last very long because now we have our own border security, which is collaborating with them. With 24 seven private security company on our borders.
And, uh, that's pretty, pretty cool because now we basically are working as a regular state.
[00:19:57] Mizter Rad: Who pays for this security company in the Liberland territory?
[00:20:01] Vit Jedlicka: Oh, the state does. The state does. The Liberland Republic. So, this is one of the three key services that Liberland has built for security, justice, and diplomacy.
[00:20:12] Mizter Rad: Talk to me about diplomacy. Okay, so first of all, let me... So I'm going to dig deeper into the commerce part because I'm interested in the economy. I know you're growing exponentially you said already already very clearly. And I know you have a plan to build a plant that recycles all the plastic from the region, which I find a super interesting idea, especially if there's nothing like that in the region yet.
But is there anything else? What are the prospects for, let's say, exporting services or products that are made or developed in Liberland. What, what is your idea? What, what do you think, what kind of potential do you see in the, in, in the Liberty Island?
[00:20:54] Vit Jedlicka: I think one of the, one of the, the key things in terms of like industry is robotics.
And I've got quite a cool company that wants to move from Serbia, which I think is the, the most developed robotics company. Other technologies are mostly IT. But this is the one of the physically most visible. And I think it's pretty cool because we already have those robots there.
They're cutting grass. They can run fully automated. They can spray mosquitoes. They can do all kinds of all kinds of stuff. So it's a very. Uh, very useful robot. And I think it's going to be a very nice export article as well.
[00:21:29] Mizter Rad: And why do they want to move from Serbia to Liberland? Why do you think is that what's so attractive?
[00:21:34] Vit Jedlicka: Well, first of all, you know, there is a nice investor pool that is ready to invest into the company, I think better than in Serbia. And secondly, you know, of course the regulations and the taxes are better.
[00:21:45] Mizter Rad: Interesting. So basically they're not paying taxes.
[00:21:48] Vit Jedlicka: They can, you know, if they want. This is the cool thing. We're not tax haven. We're tax heaven. You pay as much taxes as you want. And you always get rewarded for it. In form of shares of the country you're living in.
[00:22:00] Mizter Rad: Interesting. So they could be the first tech company based in Liberland, exporting their robots to the rest of Europe and maybe the rest of the world.
[00:22:09] Vit Jedlicka: Yeah. Well, physical one, of course, we already have like 200 active companies in our ecosystem. Most of them are online and, and they're just, uh, we're doing all online stuff. Some of them are in crypto. Some of them are in security. We've got one of the best hacking companies.
[00:22:25] Mizter Rad: And these companies, do they help in any way with... do they use in their branding...
do they use that they are a Liberland based or Liberland built in company?
[00:22:38] Vit Jedlicka: Of course, especially the hackers are always proud to say that. And when they collect all these hours globally. It's a nice brand for them.
[00:22:47] Mizter Rad: Okay. Interesting. Talk to me about the international stance. How are you standing internationally?
What kind of countries or which countries have recognized Liberland recently?
[00:22:58] Vit Jedlicka: The most recent work, diplomatic work that we have done is actually Liberia. They have recognized us through a nice letter because we have helped them organize the elections and everything is noted on blockchain. So that's the latest addition to the list of recognitions.
But before that, we had a very good relations with Haiti. We had very good relations, uh, and we are still building them in Dominican Republic. Very good relations with at El Salvador, uh, Malawi, Mali, uh, you know, we started with Somali land that was very interesting. And now Somali land is also developing, it's, it's recognition globally.
So we hope to grow faster than they are in terms of diplomatic recognition as well. But to be honest with you, like we don't need that much recognition. If you're building a country, it's gonna come automatically through the activity. The most important is that you can do your business really, and we are actually almost there with Liberland.
[00:23:56] Mizter Rad: buT if you want to like have trade with other countries, for example, don't you need trade offices here and there?
[00:24:02] Vit Jedlicka: No, we just need companies that do the trade.
[00:24:04] Mizter Rad: Do you think you're the biggest startup country at the moment?
[00:24:08] Vit Jedlicka: Well, I think we're the most successful one, and, uh, we're, we're kind of a country of a new kind. Which is pretty exciting.
[00:24:15] Mizter Rad: Absolutely. Exciting for a lot of people. Definitely. Tell me something. When you travel, do you, do you show your passport?
[00:24:22] Vit Jedlicka: Well, yeah, sometimes it helps me to get through the diplomatic queue. Like in the United States or... Or in Japan the other day when I was really stuck there for a long time in the regular queue. But, uh, of course with the countries that recognize us, I'm using it for regular travel. So, uh, you know,
[00:24:38] Mizter Rad: In the US it helped you, it helped you to get diplomatic treatment?
[00:24:43] Vit Jedlicka: You get through the diplomatic route, you know, like they respect it. Let's call it that way. But I only used it once in US to get properly through the border, but it was, I would say exception. I was invited to for the inauguration of Donald Trump. And I had official letter from one of the generals. And they kind of accepted that.
But normally I, of course, I need a stuff and I can just use liberal and diplomatic passport as a complimentary thing to get through the diplomatic line. But I'm not using it too often. Only, only, and basically during our emergencies.
[00:25:13] Mizter Rad: Okay. I understand. I understand. Listen, Vit it, it was a pleasure. Is there anything else that you want to share at this point with people that are listening now?
[00:25:22] Vit Jedlicka: I think this is one of the most exciting times. It's also probably one of the last chances to buy Liberland citizenship at reasonable rate. We're just just just before exponential growth, and that will also be basically noted by the value of merit.
And also, it's exciting time to come and built in Liberland. The community of the people is great. I love every single one of the settlers there. It's a lot of fun. It's very diverse community, and it might be one of the best places to do business or make new friends right now.
[00:25:55] Mizter Rad: Okay, two last things. How much is the citizenship right now?
And second, How do you get to Liberland? What's the easiest way?
[00:26:03] Vit Jedlicka: Well, I would suggest flying to Budapest, uh, and taking a rental car there, or you can fly to Osijek. There are flights from Munich, and there are flights from London. The flights from London sometimes are 15 euros. So it's very cheap to fly to Osijek, and it's only a 40 minute drive.
Of course, you can also fly to Belgrade and then go through the borders. Right now, you basically have to come from Schengen. You have to go through Croatia to access Liberland, but we are working on opening the border with Serbia as well.
[00:26:33] Mizter Rad: And how much is a passport right now in Liberland?
[00:26:36] Vit Jedlicka: Passport right now is 10, 000 USD. But once it gets traded on exchanges, I cannot estimate what the value will be. So, basically the merits, you have to collect 5, 000 merits. Now, each merit is being, is being sold for 2 USD. As I told you, the value has doubled, uh, last Monday. Just to reflect the fact that there has been a, a huge rise in interest in Liberland citizenship. And we don't want to sell out all the, all the merits, uh, at once.
[00:27:05] Mizter Rad: Or they move there for 25 days, you said.
[00:27:08] Vit Jedlicka: If they move there over 25 days, then they are free to earn, uh, if they're working on some governmental projects, they're earning between 5 to 10 merits per hour. Uh, so basically if you work hard over those 25 days, you also have a minimum 5, 000 merits and that.
That translates to the citizenship and the plot of land. But actually right now we have a special deal that even if you don't make it to 5, 000 and you stay 25 days, you'll get a citizenship and you get as many merits as you have earned. And then you can buy the rest of it or, or, or work for it later.
But, but everybody basically that stays more than 25 days in Liberland gets the citizenship.
[00:27:48] Mizter Rad: What kind of works can people do when they're there?
[00:27:52] Vit Jedlicka: We are building a society, so anything. Like, I don't know, like starting from cleaning of the toilets all the way to high level management. Uh, we need now more boat, uh, boat people that are able to operate bigger boats.
We need people that are able to take care of the supplies. We need people that, can organize local relations, so we need more Croatians to help us lobby with the local organizations. And we need truck drivers, more people that will help us with the metaverse and with the blockchain governance. All kinds of people, so we can literally almost hire anybody, you know, I just hired a couple of barmans, so that's, uh, I'm running also private beach bar on, on the, in Marina, which I'm happy to privatize sooner or later, but we need people to work on there because the visitors are coming.
[00:28:45] Mizter Rad: So you have tourists also?
[00:28:47] Vit Jedlicka: Yeah. We're just trying to acquire a big park place because I think, you know, it's going to be huge parking place in Croatia very soon. You know, how to get there also locally, you can either take a boat, but the boats are.... it's overhelmed with the construction materials these days and we'll have to start charging for them.
So it's easiest to just take a bike from Zmajevac. It's an eight kilometer ride. And, uh, there is a rental and a free of charge rental for bikes in Zmajevac, which is the close by village next to the pharmacy and just come with the bike.
[00:29:19] Mizter Rad: Is there a bridge from Croatia to Liberland or you always have to take the boat?
[00:29:23] Vit Jedlicka: No, there is like 300 meter connection over the land, but the road access has been blocked by Croatians. So we have to use bikes, or other... All terrain vehicles to get there. So with their motor vehicles, then we cannot use the road that goes to Liberland, they always stop the car and find it.
So, you know, it's going to probably take a while until we can open it, but I'm a good in good relations now with the main company for roads in Croatia. So we'll have to figure out some better access over the time. Now it's more of an adventure. You actually have to take an eight kilometer bike ride, so we can be there in like half an hour.
You know, the Croatian policemen can be a little bit naughty when they're meeting the people on the way. So it's like, it works like a filter. Only the fittest and bravest get to Liberland. Everybody else gets deterred by angry Croatian policemen.
[00:30:15] Mizter Rad: Okay, that's, uh, that's, uh, that's funny, actually.
Vit, it was a pleasure again. It was great to hear back from you and get an update. It seems to be going well for you guys, and I'm happy to hear that. And let's stay in touch. See how this flows.
[00:30:30] Vit Jedlicka: When do we when do we see
you?
[00:30:33] Mizter Rad: Soon, soon. I'm not that far. I'm in Greece right now. After the winter, I want to head back.
[00:30:38] Vit Jedlicka: Oh, after the winter, come on, you know, I was thinking maybe two to three days, Max.
[00:30:44] Mizter Rad: Well, no, the thing is that, well. I'll, I'll see. I'll let you know, but I think definitely after the winter I wanna pass by.
[00:30:51] Vit Jedlicka: Well, and you know, how much will be the visa to get to Liberland? Right now it's five merits. It's probably gonna be much higher because we already start to build amusement park. And there will be a Sauna City, et cetera.
We'll simply have to regulate the number of visitors. So think about it twice before, before you decide to come this late.
[00:31:09] Mizter Rad: The Sauna City sounds very, very nice. I like that.
[00:31:12] Vit Jedlicka: Yeah, because we've got so many diesel generators that we have to run. We have to cool them down somehow. So we'll use in the winter all Excessive energy from these diesel generators to heat up the pools. And of course also cold pool, so it'll be fun.
It will be fun.
[00:31:26] Mizter Rad: Well, that sounds super exciting. Vit, once again, it was a pleasure to have you here. I want to thank everyone that tuned in today. This is Mr. Rad, your host and I can't wait to release my next episode, where we will be talking about the future of passports. See you next time . Hasta la vista .
[00:31:46] Vit Jedlicka: See you next week. Bye. Bye.